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| Context  notes: Using microformats is promising, because it could allow a proposed P2PMoney  tool to parse data from any web content that supports the format. So, if ProWiki, MediaWiki, OddMuse, Google Groups, Yahoo Groups, Drupal, or any other web CMS or collaboration space supports the microformat, even amny different blogs, then discussion and pledges can all happen organically in one place. Or, pledging can happen across many communities and tools that want to collaborate. Similarly, rel-payment, or perhaps a more specific microformat, could be used track revenue sharing, perhaps via "rel-task". It's possible that "rel-expense" could also exist for tracking expense numbers. All of the data would be parsed by the P2PMoney  application in this case. This may actually be one of the quickest ways to create a tool that can be used in many different online environments. | 
| Context  notes: Using microformats is promising, because it could allow a proposed P2PMoney  tool to parse data from any web content that supports the format. So, if ProWiki, MediaWiki, OddMuse, Google Groups, Yahoo Groups, Drupal, or any other web CMS or collaboration space supports the microformat, even many different blogs, then discussion and pledges can all happen organically in one place. Or, pledging can happen across many communities and tools that want to collaborate. Similarly, rel-payment, or perhaps a more specific microformat, could be used track revenue sharing, perhaps via "rel-task". It's possible that "rel-expense" could also exist for tracking expense numbers. All of the data would be parsed by the P2PMoney  application in this case. This may actually be one of the quickest ways to create a tool that can be used in many different online environments. | 
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This is an  OrganizedInquiry for the P2PMoney
 OrganizedInquiry for the P2PMoney project.
 project.
At it's core, an OrganizedInquiry is:
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Basic question:
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 oriented concepts, and how exactly does their interest resonate with our current requirements at P2PMoney
 oriented concepts, and how exactly does their interest resonate with our current requirements at P2PMoney ?"
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 ma.gnolia social media group discussion
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 On Tangler, currently in beta testing, so not yet visible to wider internet community, but will be
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 Smartmobs blog post
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 P2P foundation blog post
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 Yahoo Answers
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 LinkedIn Answers
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 ma.gnolia social media group discussion
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 On Tangler, currently in beta testing, so not yet visible to wider internet community, but will be
 On Tangler, currently in beta testing, so not yet visible to wider internet community, but will be
 Smartmobs blog post
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 P2P foundation blog post
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 Lansing City Pulse forums
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 Coworking google group
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 Eduspaces Community
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 Discussed today 3/39/07 with TantekCelic in IRC
 Discussed today 3/39/07 with TantekCelic in IRC
(from IRC Logs):
[17:53:52] <SamRose > I see the draft for re-payment, but I also wonder if anyone is thinking about something like "rel-pledge" for money pooling?
> I see the draft for re-payment, but I also wonder if anyone is thinking about something like "rel-pledge" for money pooling?
[18:02:03] <tantek> SamRose , can you find examples on the web of people pledging money but not paying it? E.g. in blog posts?
, can you find examples on the web of people pledging money but not paying it? E.g. in blog posts?
[18:06:20] <SamRose > tantek: actually, the example that I would give would be in a wiki. Although, a blog post could be fine. I am thinking about where people are raising funds, as you see in fundable and similar sites. But, allowing people to carry on these pledging activities outside of the fundable-type silos
> tantek: actually, the example that I would give would be in a wiki. Although, a blog post could be fine. I am thinking about where people are raising funds, as you see in fundable and similar sites. But, allowing people to carry on these pledging activities outside of the fundable-type silos
[18:35:57] <SamRose > tantek: sorry for disappearing, battery ran out....example of pledging on wiki pages in the wild:
> tantek: sorry for disappearing, battery ran out....example of pledging on wiki pages in the wild:  http://www.communitywiki.org/en/CommunityWikiBank
 http://www.communitywiki.org/en/CommunityWikiBank
[18:39:50] <tantek> Sam, that's an interesting example. Perhaps you could start  http://microformats.org/wiki/pledge-examples with that URL, and also describe there the problem you think would be solved if such information was automatically discoverable and parseable. See
 http://microformats.org/wiki/pledge-examples with that URL, and also describe there the problem you think would be solved if such information was automatically discoverable and parseable. See  http://microformats.org/wiki/process for more details.
 http://microformats.org/wiki/process for more details.
[18:39:57] <SamRose > tantek: also an example in french
> tantek: also an example in french  http://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wikidev.cgi?FR/Tontine (scroll down and see where people are pledging euros)
[18:40:10] <SamRose
 http://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wikidev.cgi?FR/Tontine (scroll down and see where people are pledging euros)
[18:40:10] <SamRose > tantek: sure
[18:40:28] <SamRose
> tantek: sure
[18:40:28] <SamRose > tantek: thanks for your feedback
> tantek: thanks for your feedback
(end IRC log quote)
Next steps:
1. Discuss among our group to refine the idea.
2. Create  http://microformats.org/wiki/pledge-examples page, and explain problems were trying to solve.
 http://microformats.org/wiki/pledge-examples page, and explain problems were trying to solve.
3. ....
Context notes: Using microformats is promising, because it could allow a proposed P2PMoney
 notes: Using microformats is promising, because it could allow a proposed P2PMoney tool to parse data from any web content that supports the format. So, if ProWiki, MediaWiki, OddMuse, Google Groups, Yahoo Groups, Drupal, or any other web CMS or collaboration space supports the microformat, even many different blogs, then discussion and pledges can all happen organically in one place. Or, pledging can happen across many communities and tools that want to collaborate. Similarly, rel-payment, or perhaps a more specific microformat, could be used track revenue sharing, perhaps via "rel-task". It's possible that "rel-expense" could also exist for tracking expense numbers. All of the data would be parsed by the P2PMoney
 tool to parse data from any web content that supports the format. So, if ProWiki, MediaWiki, OddMuse, Google Groups, Yahoo Groups, Drupal, or any other web CMS or collaboration space supports the microformat, even many different blogs, then discussion and pledges can all happen organically in one place. Or, pledging can happen across many communities and tools that want to collaborate. Similarly, rel-payment, or perhaps a more specific microformat, could be used track revenue sharing, perhaps via "rel-task". It's possible that "rel-expense" could also exist for tracking expense numbers. All of the data would be parsed by the P2PMoney application in this case. This may actually be one of the quickest ways to create a tool that can be used in many different online environments.
 application in this case. This may actually be one of the quickest ways to create a tool that can be used in many different online environments. 
Even if these do not become "official" microformats, they could still be used to create a decentralized P2P money tracking system. This idea still needs a lot more brainstorming and discussion by our group to see if we are collectively interested in pursuing.
Thanks to Felix Klee for inspiring this idea with his post at the  BarCampBank google group.
 BarCampBank google group. 
 
 
 BarCampBank Google Group
 BarCampBank Google Group Question 1: Are you part of a virtual community and do you feel a need for pooling financial resources or sharing revenues? If yes, what solutions are you currently using for achieving this?
 Question 1: Are you part of a virtual community and do you feel a need for pooling financial resources or sharing revenues? If yes, what solutions are you currently using for achieving this? Question 2: Do you participate in a project that could use a platform implementing payment pooling and revenue sharing?
 Question 2: Do you participate in a project that could use a platform implementing payment pooling and revenue sharing?  Question 3: If you are not satisfied with current solutions, what are the key features that are missing?
 Question 3: If you are not satisfied with current solutions, what are the key features that are missing?
 
 
 
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